Ameritards cannot even take responsibility for their own financial mistakes, Big Brother will come in and save them. You buy a house that puts a big strain on your monthly budget, then, you go out and buy a bunch of junk with a credit card, then, you get a heloc so you can go out and buy more junk. Why has this society lost all discipline, because they can rely on Big Brother to bail them out.
* CRA didn’t force people to lie — just the opposite, it made it easier to get a loan while having a smaller income while being honest.
* No one forced investors to buy mortgage backed securities. Government regulation isn’t the cause of the real fault-line. The securities created the incentive to lie.
* Many companies made choices about how much to get into or out of these markets.
Again, it seems facts and ideology have crashed. Give a specific example pls.
Can one of the Fannie & Freddie caused it folks please explain why derivatives were being purchased by capitalists? It makes no sense at all to blame this on the CRA if capitalists under no government pressure or guarantees were purchasing bundled packs of these mortgages. Please explain what I’m missing in more specific terms: CRA did what to the derivatives market?
THe collapse of the United States has been purposely orchestrated by the Federal Reserve and the other elitist entities that are the true power. The president is not the power. He is merely the puppet for the elitist to do their bidding. That’s why Obama isn’t going to save us either. The Federal Reserve has the ability play the strings of the economy like a violin and they are doing exactly that.
good idea. get rid of income tax. this forces people to save like the chinese. but raise sale tax. this forces share income with the government when people buy luxury and unneccessary stuff like buy very model of ipod ever came out.
the bailout is delaying things and making it so much worse, and our kids are going to have to pay, unfortunately. stock up on food, water and extra batteries etc. If you can get gold and silver go ahead. look at what happened in argentina and get prepared
I knew the United States would collapse within my life time. And bail out or not, all we are doing is delaying what is going to happen. The United States ‘is’ going to collapse. Its only a matter of time. Our government keeps spending more and more, even though they it does not have any money.
The moral hazard in the primary mortgage market was created by the politically-connected-to-Dems GSE dominated secondary mortgage market on an ‘affordable housing mission’ meaning the discarding of the prudent risk-based underwriting principles of the past to get uncreditworthy people into subprime loans and encouraging more of the same by buying them all up from the originators.
Fannie and Freddie ran roughshod during the housing bubble on their ‘affordable housing mission’ and protected from any regulation by congressional Democrats.
Republicans tried to reign in the GSEs at the start of the housing bubble to prevent catastrophe.
But Fannie and Freddie had the Democrats in their pockets and the Dems prevented the regulation that would have prevented this financial crisis on the downslope of the housing bubble.
This is a Dem catastrophe, not Wall Street.
CDSs are not the root cause.
MBSs and CDOs corrupted by Fannie and Freddie with subprime loans made during the housing bubble with underwriting guidelines lowered by Fannie and Freddie.
The crux of the problem was the secondary mortgage market (Fannie and Freddie) cashing in recklessly on the housing bubble, able to easily thwart OFHEO oversite due to being well connected politically to congressional democrats. This fueled the moral hazard inherent in the primary mortgage industry.
When ideology crashes into facts, this is sticking to ideology. Government has had an incredibly light hand on the market, and the causes — short term rewards for some at long term risks for others, Wall Street getting rich on ponzi scheme — would not have been prevented by changing the Fed. The Great Depression, Reaganomic’s deregulation causing the Savings and Loans fiasco, and the current uber-deregulation fiasco are all free market failures that need intelligent responses.
2000 After most law makers have adjourned for Christmas holiday Senator Gramm R texas attaches a 262 page amendment to the omnibus appropriations bill called:
“The Commodity Futures Modernization Act”
This one piece of legislation deregulates derivative trading leading to the collapse of Enron.
Forging the way for new unregulated securities such as “Credit Default Swaps”
De-regulation is self- regulation.
Self- regulation is self discipline.
The tree of self discipline needs to be watered regularly with the blood of pigs and fools.
Stop the Bail Out!
Let the pigs and the fools get slaughtered.
Time to water the Tree of Self Discipline
AIG provided credit default swap insurance on defaults on these mortgage-backed securities made toxic by Clinton and his cronies.
The Mistress of Disaster, Jamie Gorelick, strikes again. First, the creator of Clinton’s Jamie Gorelick Wall that killed counterterrorism cooperation, the failure which allowed 9/11 to occur.
Enron’ing of Fannie Mae’s accounting to line her pockets with a cool $75M and the toxic mixing of prime and subprime mortgages together in securitizations which killed AIG.
KindergartenFlunkout667 is too stupid to realize that financial risk management through derivative swaps, for managing risk against defaults on mortgage-backed securities, were around long before the Clinton Admin. corrupted the mortgage pools that fund these mortgage-backed securities with forcing banks to lend trillions in mortgages to uncreditworthy democrats.
Clinton cronies (Raines, Gorelick) at Fannie mixed the toxic mortgages with good mortgages in MBSs instead of segregating the risk.
What about AIG? This is result of BOTH corporate parties buying into the idiotic uber deregulatory philosophy of Milton Friedman. The fox guarding the hen house…who couldn’t see this shit coming?
I don’t think many in the public and even the news media can even follow Dr Paul when he speaks freely. He said things here like “having to stop the Fed from monetizing the debt”. Most folks don’t even know what that is.
Ameritards cannot even take responsibility for their own financial mistakes, Big Brother will come in and save them. You buy a house that puts a big strain on your monthly budget, then, you go out and buy a bunch of junk with a credit card, then, you get a heloc so you can go out and buy more junk. Why has this society lost all discipline, because they can rely on Big Brother to bail them out.
Bailouts are a really bad idea.
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* CRA didn’t force people to lie — just the opposite, it made it easier to get a loan while having a smaller income while being honest.
* No one forced investors to buy mortgage backed securities. Government regulation isn’t the cause of the real fault-line. The securities created the incentive to lie.
* Many companies made choices about how much to get into or out of these markets.
Again, it seems facts and ideology have crashed. Give a specific example pls.
Can one of the Fannie & Freddie caused it folks please explain why derivatives were being purchased by capitalists? It makes no sense at all to blame this on the CRA if capitalists under no government pressure or guarantees were purchasing bundled packs of these mortgages. Please explain what I’m missing in more specific terms: CRA did what to the derivatives market?
THe collapse of the United States has been purposely orchestrated by the Federal Reserve and the other elitist entities that are the true power. The president is not the power. He is merely the puppet for the elitist to do their bidding. That’s why Obama isn’t going to save us either. The Federal Reserve has the ability play the strings of the economy like a violin and they are doing exactly that.
good idea. get rid of income tax. this forces people to save like the chinese. but raise sale tax. this forces share income with the government when people buy luxury and unneccessary stuff like buy very model of ipod ever came out.
the bailout is delaying things and making it so much worse, and our kids are going to have to pay, unfortunately. stock up on food, water and extra batteries etc. If you can get gold and silver go ahead. look at what happened in argentina and get prepared
I knew the United States would collapse within my life time. And bail out or not, all we are doing is delaying what is going to happen. The United States ‘is’ going to collapse. Its only a matter of time. Our government keeps spending more and more, even though they it does not have any money.
Another man speaks the truth about the bail out. Thank you McCotter watch?v=gAn2gpEGBUM&feature=email
The moral hazard in the primary mortgage market was created by the politically-connected-to-Dems GSE dominated secondary mortgage market on an ‘affordable housing mission’ meaning the discarding of the prudent risk-based underwriting principles of the past to get uncreditworthy people into subprime loans and encouraging more of the same by buying them all up from the originators.
Fannie and Freddie ran roughshod during the housing bubble on their ‘affordable housing mission’ and protected from any regulation by congressional Democrats.
Republicans tried to reign in the GSEs at the start of the housing bubble to prevent catastrophe.
But Fannie and Freddie had the Democrats in their pockets and the Dems prevented the regulation that would have prevented this financial crisis on the downslope of the housing bubble.
This is a Dem catastrophe, not Wall Street.
CDSs are not the root cause.
MBSs and CDOs corrupted by Fannie and Freddie with subprime loans made during the housing bubble with underwriting guidelines lowered by Fannie and Freddie.
The crux of the problem was the secondary mortgage market (Fannie and Freddie) cashing in recklessly on the housing bubble, able to easily thwart OFHEO oversite due to being well connected politically to congressional democrats. This fueled the moral hazard inherent in the primary mortgage industry.
When ideology crashes into facts, this is sticking to ideology. Government has had an incredibly light hand on the market, and the causes — short term rewards for some at long term risks for others, Wall Street getting rich on ponzi scheme — would not have been prevented by changing the Fed. The Great Depression, Reaganomic’s deregulation causing the Savings and Loans fiasco, and the current uber-deregulation fiasco are all free market failures that need intelligent responses.
2000 After most law makers have adjourned for Christmas holiday Senator Gramm R texas attaches a 262 page amendment to the omnibus appropriations bill called:
“The Commodity Futures Modernization Act”
This one piece of legislation deregulates derivative trading leading to the collapse of Enron.
Forging the way for new unregulated securities such as “Credit Default Swaps”
De-regulation is self- regulation.
Self- regulation is self discipline.
The tree of self discipline needs to be watered regularly with the blood of pigs and fools.
Stop the Bail Out!
Let the pigs and the fools get slaughtered.
Time to water the Tree of Self Discipline
AIG provided credit default swap insurance on defaults on these mortgage-backed securities made toxic by Clinton and his cronies.
The Mistress of Disaster, Jamie Gorelick, strikes again. First, the creator of Clinton’s Jamie Gorelick Wall that killed counterterrorism cooperation, the failure which allowed 9/11 to occur.
Enron’ing of Fannie Mae’s accounting to line her pockets with a cool $75M and the toxic mixing of prime and subprime mortgages together in securitizations which killed AIG.
KindergartenFlunkout667 is too stupid to realize that financial risk management through derivative swaps, for managing risk against defaults on mortgage-backed securities, were around long before the Clinton Admin. corrupted the mortgage pools that fund these mortgage-backed securities with forcing banks to lend trillions in mortgages to uncreditworthy democrats.
Clinton cronies (Raines, Gorelick) at Fannie mixed the toxic mortgages with good mortgages in MBSs instead of segregating the risk.
What about AIG? This is result of BOTH corporate parties buying into the idiotic uber deregulatory philosophy of Milton Friedman. The fox guarding the hen house…who couldn’t see this shit coming?
The interviewer is such a douchbag.
Ron Paul though is 100% right. It’s a damn
shame he’s not president. =(
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Henry Paulson, Treasury Sec., former chairman and CEO of Goldman Sachs.
liquidate all the bad debt – Ron Paul
Remember those words america
This is BS!!!! I have to pay MORE TAXES because Bush and his Idiot following screwed up royally!!!! Why doesn’t he PAY!!!!!
Fannie Mae – created by the Democrats as part of the New Deal.
Freddie Mac – created by the Democrats as part of the Great Society.
The Democrats got the government in the mortgage market which inevitably would lead to a taxpayer bailout as now.
I don’t think many in the public and even the news media can even follow Dr Paul when he speaks freely. He said things here like “having to stop the Fed from monetizing the debt”. Most folks don’t even know what that is.